Skyblock is dead - How to revive it?

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_ap0cryphal

Tree Puncher
Maybe for once listen to the people that actually makes an impact for people coming on the server, no offence but not people like Verisimility or aph0, they are great people but they dont make people wanna come on the server. Me and my team create wars with people which makes pvp alive, and i hate to say this but dream team which consists of lleen and their team just joined skyblock and made it to is top, resetting server will only make them lose their progress that they worked hard for. Me and lleens team actually make people come on servers to fight and this whats make the server alive. So i would like to emphasise again NO RESET , please make a huge update to the server or just create a new one.

Sorry Matt, but your argument is just invalid. This is not about anyone being great people, but about the server as a whole.

You say you bring an impact on the server. How? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Skyblock is NOT a PVP-based server. That's like going to factions to build a nice survival house. Can you do it? Sure, but that's not the point of that server. I'm not saying PVP is bad, but it's definetely not the focus of this gamemode. People don't come on Skyblock specifically to PVP. There are other gamemodes for that.

Now I will reffer to your endorsement of Dream Team. You say they worked hard to get to IS top. That's just very hypocritical coming from an OG player like yourself. Spamming endstone with a 20-people team is not hard work, my guy. If I started an IS right now, from scratch, & bring 19 people to play on that IS, I'd be #1 in a few days. That's not right. You can not just spam a block to be on top (as they say, DT on top..). Skyblock is just as dead as it was before DT joined, just a few more people from their team coming online once in a while. Obviously because they provoke others, it's only natural players reply in chat, if that gave you the illusion that chat is so "alive".

Long story short, you don't want the server reset because you have a lot of stuff. That's understandable. Me & my team still have over $500mill in spawners & other things, our Island is on /is top, etc. This request is not coming from someone who has nothing to lose, understand that.

yes i agree. whats the point of playing on a server, building up your nice island, buying keys and enchant tokens, just to have it reset ??? Espacilly we are at a time where new players coming in, as i mentioned espacially dream team, all kit players. Server is doing well without reset and will do extremely better with just an amazing update. Marteen we all want the server to do well as much as you do.

If there won't be a reset, new players won't be coming in. Picture this, you're a new player coming to Skyblock. You see people having so much stuff, they're so rich, the /ah isn't selling ANYTHING but ads, would you start on this server? I don't think so. DT came from Kit to Skyblock because they didn't get enough action on there. After a while, they'll start leaving Skyblock too. Don't forget they've been playing for barely a month or so.

Also, there's no point for a big update if there's no reset along with it. If they add new items/quests or whatever, how hard is it gonna be for rich people to get those done? You'll just get the stuff & be bored again. That's not the point.

Resetting Skyblock, which has been going for atleast 3 years, won't kill it. See other servers: Prison, Survival. After they got reset, a lot of new players came along because they had an equal chance to start as everyone else. If you can't see that, there's no point continuing this conversation.
 

Wjau

First Step
Also, I think theres many servers that resets too often, skyblock players all around the minecraft community are searching for something that doesnt need to reset every month, year, week, etc. Just play for fun and build your island and never really have nothing to do, I think its important with updates but no need a reset really.
 

3443Matthew

Tree Puncher
Sorry Matt, but your argument is just invalid. This is not about anyone being great people, but about the server as a whole.

You say you bring an impact on the server. How? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Skyblock is NOT a PVP-based server. That's like going to factions to build a nice survival house. Can you do it? Sure, but that's not the point of that server. I'm not saying PVP is bad, but it's definetely not the focus of this gamemode. People don't come on Skyblock specifically to PVP. There are other gamemodes for that.

Now I will reffer to your endorsement of Dream Team. What did DT bring to Skyblock? In a word, toxicity. They brag in chat non-stop, they talk trash to other players, they keep getting muted & perm-banned in some cases (cranpy?). You think that's the attitude that Skyblock promotes? Is it a server to trash talk others & brag about your, dare I say, 20-people team?
You say they worked hard to get to IS top. That's just very hypocritical coming from an OG player like yourself. Spamming endstone with a 20-people team is not hard work, my guy. If I started an IS right now, from scratch, & bring 19 people to play on that IS, I'd be #1 in a few days. That's not right. You can not just spam a block to be on top (as they say, DT on top..). Skyblock is just as dead as it was before DT joined, just a few more people from their team coming online once in a while. Obviously because they provoke others, it's only natural players reply in chat, if that gave you the illusion that chat is so "alive".

Long story short, you don't want the server reset because you have a lot of stuff. That's understandable. Me & my team still have over $500mill in spawners & other things, our Island is on /is top, etc. This request is not coming from someone who has nothing to lose, understand that.



If there won't be a reset, new players won't be coming in. Picture this, you're a new player coming to Skyblock. You see people having so much stuff, they're so rich, the /ah isn't selling ANYTHING but ads, would you start on this server? I don't think so. DT came from Kit to Skyblock because they didn't get enough action on there. After a while, they'll start leaving Skyblock too. Don't forget they've been playing for barely a month or so.

Also, there's no point for a big update if there's no reset along with it. If they add new items/quests or whatever, how hard is it gonna be for rich people to get those done? You'll just get the stuff & be bored again. That's not the point.

Resetting Skyblock, which has been going for atleast 3 years, won't kill it. See other servers: Prison, Survival. After they got reset, a lot of new players came along because they had an equal chance to start as everyone else. If you can't see that, there's no point continuing this conversation.
I see where you're coming from. But dont you forget they dont have 20 people coming on placing endstone. If i'm not wrong, it is only falcon, lleen , knowndiscovery and devilishly actively working on the island. The rest of them just come on to trash talk and fight. So what if they're toxic, this actually brings life to chat and cause people to come on just to play skyblock and fight. I've had old players come back to join the fight against dt such as lonelypandaking , acrisp04 and more. I agree that a reset will make the server a more fun environment, but as you said, once everyone completes the new quests and stuff, it'll be back to just afking and dead chat. Pvp actually plays a huge part in skyblock, recently ever since dream team came on we've had party fights almost everyday. People grind xp to make armor, and actually have islands which is solely based of producing pvp items, instead of having a boring island which is only made of igs and creeps and boosting blocks.
I don't care about losing my items as you mentioned, its the time and money that will be lost when this server resets. If 1 year ago you told me the server was gonna reset, i wouldn't have invested time and money in this. Part of me really wants a reset, but a reset that includes me and everyone else in this server who spent money, to get what we paid for.
 

3443Matthew

Tree Puncher
Also, I think theres many servers that resets too often, skyblock players all around the minecraft community are searching for something that doesnt need to reset every month, year, week, etc. Just play for fun and build your island and never really have nothing to do, I think its important with updates but no need a reset really.
Exactly my point, snapcraft is one of the few server that I thought don't reset, which is comforting since now almost every server in the community resets after a few months due to money hungry owners.
 

3443Matthew

Tree Puncher
I see where you're coming from. DT is basically a toxic team, that only trash talks. But dont you forget they dont have 20 people coming on placing endstone. If i'm not wrong, it is only falcon, lleen , knowndiscovery and devilishly actively working on the island. The rest of them just come on to trash talk and fight. So what if they're toxic, this actually brings life to chat and cause people to come on just to play skyblock and fight. I've had old players come back to join the fight against dt such as lonelypandaking , acrisp04 and more. I agree that a reset will make the server a more fun environment, but as you said, once everyone completes the new quests and stuff, it'll be back to just afking and dead chat. Pvp actually plays a huge part in skyblock, recently ever since dream team came on we've had party fights almost everyday. People grind xp to make armor, and actually have islands which is solely based of producing pvp items, instead of having a boring island which is only made of igs and creeps and boosting blocks.
I don't care about losing my items as you mentioned, its the time and money that will be lost when this server resets. If 1 year ago you told me the server was gonna reset, i wouldn't have invested time and money in this. Part of me really wants a reset, but a reset that includes me and everyone else in this server who spent money, to get what we paid for.
edit: and yes, people actually do come to skyblock specifically for pvp. Maybe tune in tonights fight and you'll see lol im almost 100% certain tehres gonna be a huge fight in about 5 hours from now
 

Wjau

First Step
First of all, before anyone wonders why I'm about to complain, I'd like to set a base.

I've been on Snapcraft since December 2018. Over the months, I've upgraded my ranks on 3 different servers. I'm Eagle on Skyblock (highest rank), Ultra on Survival (highest rank), and Royal on realms (second to highest rank). So it's safe to say I've invested at least $500 (before you call me p2w, that money didn't come from my own pocket - 95% of it came from IRL deals, which are allowed on the server), coming from ranks, legendary keys, level boosters, etc. Same goes for my partner, Verisimility. He has the exact same ranks that I have. That puts us at an easy $1,000 invested in this server between us.

So, you might ask, was the last paragraph a weird flex? Well, no. If I (or anyone else) invest in a server, I/we expect it to run pretty smoothly, having little bugs that are fixed promptly & stuff like that. Also, I/we expect to see new things being implemented once in a while. Keep the player's interest so it doesn't become boring.

Skyblock had been great when I started, pretty interesting overall & the community was active. But as the months went by, it started getting boring. Nothing considerably new was being implemented, nothing exciting to keep the players going. Now to be clear, I'm not saying there should be a new shiny thing every week, but it has been the exact same for the last almost 2 years (maybe more, I haven't played for that long) which is just insulting for the players.

Current state of Skyblock? For anyone not playing, Skyblock is pretty much dead. A few people are still playing, the /ah (auction house) consists of 90% advertisement from players, chat is dead, etc. Needless to say, half of the already few players are not even real players (almost everyone on Skyblock knows about the bot situation, so how about we stop pretending it's not happening?).

When it comes to the gameplay, the system is outdated to say the least. 80 spawner limit? Really? 60 hoppers? $200M balance limit? I mean sure, weird flex again, but I - and many others - have reached every limit you can reach on Skyblock, part of the reason I'm not really playing anymore. Compared to other servers like Survival or Realms, where you're not limited whatsoever, why is Skyblock so capped?

Another broken thing is /Island top. We used to have thousands of level because you could just grind Packed Ice. That got patched, the levels were removed, and then players found another block to spam. Same story again, until now, when "every block was nerfed & you can't spam them". But that's obviously not the case. You can still grind Endstone (everyone on Skyblock will boo me for this). I don't think it's normal to just grind a block, have it nerfed, grind another and so on, because the players are not getting that wasted time back.

So considering Skyblock hasn't been reset in at least 3 years, I & lots of other players think it's time for a reset. I'll be providing a few ideas if someone will ever take them into consideration:
  1. Increase the limits. Here I'm referring to the balance limit, spawner limit, hopper limit, chest limit, redstone limit, etc.
  2. Re-work the /Island top. I'd propose a similar system to Realms. For anyone that's not familiar, I think that the Island levels should be obtained by placing down valuable blocks, especially spawners. For example, if I place an Iron Golem Spawner, I'll be getting x levels. Or, if I don't want to invest in spawners, I can just grind for valuable blocks (diamond blocks, emerald blocks, etc.)
  3. Vote party rewards. As far as I know, on every server when the vote party occurs, you get a vote key. That's not the case on Skyblock, but it should be.
  4. Add the possibility to increase Island size by paying in-game money. Currently, the default Island size is 100x100. You can get 150x150 by upgrading to the highest rank, or even higher by purchasing it separately from store (200x200, 250x250). I think that shouldn't be the only option. I think it would be more interesting to have the possibility to upgrade the island by paying in-game money (not cheap, obviously). So for example, if my Island size is 100x100, I'd have to pay x amount of money to upgrade to 110x110 and so on. This feature can implement increasing the limits of the things mentioned above. So you'd not only increase the size, but also the hopper limit, spawner limit and so on.
  5. Upgrade the Skyblock server to a newer version of Minecraft. We've been on 1.12 for so long. How about upgrading the server to 1.14 for example? Considering Skyblock very much relies on building, having new blocks & mechanics would make the game more interesting & refreshing.
  6. Add a Creative gamemode for higher ranks. Just like Survival, it'd be cool to be able to build on Creative (limited blocks, of course). Like mentioned above, Skyblock would benefit from some enhanced building methods.
  7. Add Dungeons and/or worthy quests. I know Skyblock currently has quests you can do, but let's be honest, they're just plain bad. You don't get anything good out of them. So my suggestion is, make them harder & increase the reward. Also, dungeons would be a nice edition.
I know a few of these have been suggested before, but I wanted to emphasize on the fact that Skyblock needs a reset. I'm looking forward to your opinions.

Thanks for reading.[/QUOT

I love all the ideas, but what about all the $ people spent? will it go to waste or just give them the things back?
 
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